{"id":2991,"date":"2026-06-22T17:34:26","date_gmt":"2026-06-22T14:34:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/btchel.com\/?p=2991"},"modified":"2026-06-22T17:34:26","modified_gmt":"2026-06-22T14:34:26","slug":"deep-monetary-economics-in-oslos-satoshi-talks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/btchel.com\/fi\/deep-monetary-economics-in-oslos-satoshi-talks\/","title":{"rendered":"Deep Monetary Economics in Oslo&#8217;s Satoshi Talks"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Bitcoinpolitisk Institutt<\/em>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/bpinorge.no\/english\/\">Bitcoin Policy Norway<\/a>, organized a neat panel session at its events in Oslo&#8217;s Litteraturhuset last week. The <em>Satoshi-samtale<\/em> (&#8220;Satoshi talks&#8221;) is recorded and released as a podcast, worth listening for a deep dive into the monetary economics of Bitcoin. <br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br>For years, BPI has put on semi-regular events in Oslo and this one doesn&#8217;t disappoint. Two guests from the banking system (Jan Ludvig Andreassen, the chief economist at Eika, and Arne Kloster, special adviser to Norges Bank) provided their views, with BPI&#8217;s Ole Emil Augland offering critical and, occasionally, quite critical, Bitcoin-oriented commentary. <br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Across topics that included the intricacies of the consumer price index, how inflation works through the economy, and how it relates to money printing, the panelists meandered toward what the point and purpose of a monetary system is. At the end, Arne gave us the most succinct conflict of visions involved between bitcoin and fiat: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThere\u2019s a trade-off between stability and flexibility, and the monetary system we have today is very flexible but it comes with some risks, whereas a monetary system that\u2019s closer to the old-fashioned gold standard is more stable but won\u2019t perhaps contribute to economic growth in the same way.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here&#8217;s the consumer price index graph that Arne presented, based on research and statistics from Norges Bank, and which provided backdrop to the overall conversation: <br><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"417\" height=\"313\" src=\"https:\/\/btchel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/BPI-Norway-CPI-over-long-time-history-economics-money.jpg\" alt=\"Consumer Price Index (CPI), Norway, 1516-2003\" class=\"wp-image-2993\" srcset=\"https:\/\/btchel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/BPI-Norway-CPI-over-long-time-history-economics-money.jpg 417w, https:\/\/btchel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/BPI-Norway-CPI-over-long-time-history-economics-money-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 417px) 100vw, 417px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Norway, CPI 1516-2003, long historic time series. Source: <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/BPINorge\/status\/2066536217978585257\">Norges Bank.<\/a><\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Briefly going through that history, Arne suggests that \u201cinflation is, in a way, a phenomenon of war; it\u2019s when lots of money is printed to finance soldiers\u2019 pay, food, canons\u2026 war is expensive.&#8221;<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And what he brought to weigh on the subject was a very standard remark among the economics profession: What can be <em>even worse<\/em> than inflation is the price level change variability, \u201cbecause that makes economic planning difficult.\u201d Stable inflation is manageable since you know that the purchasing power of your money will fall by a particular, credible amount (i.e., the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wmzIipG5Tu4\">2% creed<\/a>), but when the change in money\u2019s worth is <em>unpredictable<\/em>, money quickly loses its coordinating role and the monetary system turns into chaos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"> <br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jan Ludvig interjected that household wealth has transformed greatly in the last four decades in Norway, where real estate is concerned. It used to be mostly owned by institutions, but from around 1985 Norway experienced &#8220;a historic transfer of value from institutions to households, which <em>also<\/em> meant that changes in property prices meant so much more than they used to. <em>But they\u2019re not part of the money supply<\/em>!\u201d Which they probably should, Jan Ludvig suggested. \u00a0<br><br>In a beautifully phrased remark by Ole, about the downsides of calculating a consumer price index, we learn that just because a computer improved in raw, objective power (e.g., RAM, memory, speed), statisticians make an error in assuming that the economic <em>value<\/em> of the item has increased in proportion. <br><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThey can\u2019t say that \u2018yes, the price should be 12,000 instead of 11,000 [&#8230;] they\u2019re trying to calculate objectively something that is <em>subjective<\/em>, that is <em>value<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br>You can learn more about Bitcoin Policy Norway (&#8220;Bitcoinpolitisk Institutt Norge&#8221;) and their work via <a href=\"https:\/\/bpinorge.no\/\">BPINorge.no<\/a>.<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"504\" src=\"https:\/\/btchel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/image-1024x504.png\" alt=\"Norway's Parliament, Stortinget, overlaid with Bitcoinpolitisk Institutt Norge's frontpage and slogan: Vi formidler kunnskap om hvordan Bitcoin p\u00e5virker \u00f8konomi og samfunn\" class=\"wp-image-2994\" srcset=\"https:\/\/btchel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/image-1024x504.png 1024w, https:\/\/btchel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/image-300x148.png 300w, https:\/\/btchel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/image-768x378.png 768w, https:\/\/btchel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/image-1536x756.png 1536w, https:\/\/btchel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/image-2048x1007.png 2048w, https:\/\/btchel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/image-600x295.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>A view of Norway&#8217;s parliament, Stortinget, as seen on Bitcoin Policy Norway&#8217;s front page.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bitcoin-relevant monetary economics at Bitcoinpolitisk Institutt (Bitcoin Policy Norway) held at Litteraturhuset in Oslo last week. 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